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I need to re-access after Smashing Machine comes out. Looks like Dwayne is giving the performance of his career, and could be better than Cena's Peacemaker performance. We'll see how it turns out. Dwayne's also in an upcoming Darren Aronofsky movie, and we'll see if that Scorcese movie comes out ever.

Cena is in danger of overexposure imo. Just like Dwayne has been for decades, but goofy Cena could get tiring soon, and he'll have to get away from comedies and do the auteur films like Dwayne is doing now. Cena's cameo in The Bear felt like a jump the shark moment in his acting career for me.
 
If this isn’t a “Be A Man” musical biopic, this ain’t winning any awards
 
Please don't do something dumb and cast an overexposed guy like Jason Momoa or whoever. I want an unknown. The actor they cast needs to have the intense eyes for sure.
 
He might have aged out but Jason Mantzoukas has always struck me as a guy who could hit the physical facial expressions required of this role.

The always popular name for this role has been Joe Manganiello who I know is a wrestling nerd.
 
Get Justin Theroux on the Iron Claw diet.

Brian Cox as Angelo
Twinkothee Chalamet as Lanny
Affleck as Hogan
Lily Collins as Liz
Rob Lowe as Vince
 
https://collider.com/friday-the-13th-reboot-casting-update-adam-scherr-deathgasm-2-fantastic-fest/

Braun Strowman says he's is in talks to play Jason Voorhees. I've met Kane Hodder and he's a big beefy man, but Braun is just too insanely muscular to be Jason imo. He'd still be a good choice, but how the fuck are they gonna stop a killer monster man built like that.

I've come around on the 2009 remake, and I really liked Derek Mears version of Jason, so it's a bummer they aren't bringing him back. He's like 53, so not completely ancient or anything, and he's still very imposing.
 
I saw the '09 remake in theaters and don't remember a thing about it. It's still probably better than the '10 Nightmare remake, though.
 
Nowadays, I look at the "Friday the 13th" remake the same way I do the "Texas Chainsaw" one-it's like a decent cover. You see it, think "that wasn't too bad" and then move on.
 
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Friday The 13th is my choice of the best of those 00's era remakes of the major franchises (Friday, Elm Street, Halloween, TCM).

I find the cast more memorable than the others in the remakes of the time. It has Lil Kev from Always Sunny getting turned on by a mannequin, Ryan Hansen playing a douche that gets a good death, and imo the biggest dickhead character in the franchise that cracked me up, Trent. I legitimately laugh when he does his Bud Bundy esque high pitched shriek when he sees Jason, and when he gives a Dennis Reynolds esque line delivery about "perfect nipple placement". Jason is also imo very good. Supernatural guy does a decent job too and I liked one of the final girls. But, the one that gets that awful final line is pretty bad.


There's some dumb shit that used to bother me more (Jason being a hunter, growing a weed farm, keeping the one girl alive, the final Jason jumpscare), but I actually really like the long ass 20 minute cold open with Jason taking out the first group of "teens". And, Jason being a survivalist is a cool little change for me now.


It's middle of the pack still for me in my Friday rankings, but I don't have it near the bottom anymore. I prefer it to Manhattan, Goes To Hell (My guilty pleasure of the series), Jason X (The one I don't get the new found love for), and maybe Part V (Which I like more than most people). It's tied with Freddy vs Jason at the moment in the middle.
 
People like Jason X because 00s nostalgia is very in rn.

Was Freddy Krueger supposed to be a pedophile? I think they outright mentioned it in the remake, but I’m not sure if it’s part of the original. I think it was originally intended to be that way but the studio nixed that idea.

I feel like I’ve asked this before but I saw the remake recently and never saw the original series apart from the first three and it’s been a looonnnng time since I have.
 
The Jason X hype has been going on for like a decade now. It started in the early 10's in the horror circles on reddit/social media and similar sites. I assume it's people that grew up with the movie, but I was 13 when it came out, and it was the first Jason movie I saw in theaters. And, I think iirc, I fell asleep in theaters and just have zero nostalgia for it. I have way more childhood nostalgia for like Freddy Vs Jason. Jason X is mostly boring, and the characters are way too snarky and similar to the Scream franchise for me. I feel like it's the most overhyped of the series, while people still ruthlessly hate my beloved Part V. I even prefer the batshit Jason Goes To Hell.

I think you answered your own question about the Freddy pedophile thing. Wes originally planned it than changed it to a child killer in the script probably because of Bob Shaye/the studio. Other than the remake, and the opening scene of Freddy vs Jason where iirc Freddy grossly licks a picture of a child, there's no instances of Freddy acting like that. He's in it just for the kills and making his quips.
 
Jason X is great because it knows exactly what it is and it has fun. At that point, that was badly needed in the series, especially since Friday the 13th was always --even at its worst moments-- taking itself very seriously. It also has the dry ice and the holodeck kill, which are great. It's by far not a good movie, and is maybe the least essential (the end of Goes To Hell into FvJ works better anyway), but it's a fun non-canon thing.

The one thing I've missed more with the Nightmare movies over the years was cutting the aspect that the kids were not their parents' first children being played up more.
 
I can accept it as Jason fan fiction. But, personally I find it a slog, although I get loving it if your into late 90's cheesy Sci-Fi shows. I'm not a big Sci Fi television show guy, and the humor (Other than that that Sergeant Brodski dude) didn't work for me. Rusty Schwimmer and Leslie Jordan in Goes To Hell made me laugh way more than snarky Janessa or the stoner guy or that Professor that gives Jason his machete back. Also, imo people give it extra credit because David Cronenberg is in it for 30 seconds.

I think most of the series know it is campy nonsense aside from maybe the first two. Part V and Goes To Hell wouldn't include so many bizarre characters otherwise. I prefer unintentional humor in the franchise to trying to yuk it up and having all the characters quip. It's probably why I enjoy the first four movies the most, and have part 6 (Which is usually everyone's favorite because of the humor) ranked around 5.

I can spin this off into the horror thread if Friday/Elm Street talk is cluttering this wrestler movie thread.
 
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Friday from 6 on are much more aware of what they are, which admittedly is part of why I don't like those as much, but they were also pretty grounded in acting like serious movies on the whole. Goes To Hell takes itself seriously enough to try and be different for the environment of the time, like when a hair metal band would go grunge and act like they were planning that the whole time. After Goes To Hell, you need a Jason X to reign it in a little bit. No way I'll ever recognize it as anything more than a non-canon movie with the intention of keeping the name out there but it's fun with zero stakes. It isn't like they went Halloween Resurrection and ruined everything.

And Braun is a bad choice for Jason imo. Like I think if you want to convey the little, subtle things for character work, I'd absolutely get a wrestler to do it, but Braun's not mobile enough or subtle enough.
 
Lol, I have more fun with the shitty early 00's tech and Busta Rhymes going full Busta Bust in Halloween Resurrection than Jason X. That Laurie scene is horrible and more insulting than anything in Jason X though.

They should get a stunt man, or just bring back Derek Mears who is not only a stuntman, but a pretty solid physical actor otherwise as well. I loved him in that weird arm wrestling scene from Twin Peaks: The Return. If Braun is cast, I think it's return of lumbering Zombie Jason, because Braun isn't running after people with those knees.
 
See for me Halloween's never completely recovered. That was the worst of the ironic horror era for me. I think it's fun that it's basically choose-your-own-adventure when it comes to continuity but I hate that it's only that way because of so many mistakes and bad decisions.

Braun would fit well in another franchise, but I don't think he's got the nuance for Jason. I honestly would find someone unknown, just because. Bonus points if they're stun performers or willing/able to take a hit here and there.
 
Michael's mystique died for me with part 5 and having him hilariously going down a waterfall with his terrible mask on, under a different mask buying cigarettes for the final girl, and then later crying and taking his mask off. That movie also does away with the really interesting ending from 4, and replaces the likable final girl from 4 with an obnoxious party girl that screams most of her lines.

He was already a joke by Resurrection for me. And, I find Busta really entertaining, both unintentionally and intentionally, so I enjoyed seeing him. Tyra Banks being in the movie was really bizarre too. Maybe the least memorable final girl of the entire franchise though.

Honestly, if Kane Hodder is too old to do another Hatchet movie or whatever, Braun could be okay for Victor Crawley. I can't really think of too many horror characters that fit him. Maybe as Pumpkinhead in the eventual reboot.
 
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Listen, I know it's sacrelige, but Braun shaving and dying his hair to be the Tall Man kinda does it for me. I can see his goofy ass lifting up coffins by himself and shouting dubbed-in threats.
 
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