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A girl I know, her brother and another guy got fired from their LEO gigs thanks to someone recording their arrest. They had a trainee with them that was suspended for not stopping the negative behavior. I had saved the footage when it first hit social media but since they got fired, I didn't keep the video. I'm not sure what happened to other guy, but the brother moved to Colorado and is working private sector and enjoying the fuck out of recreational plants. He needed it. That video scared me.
from memory: They had a 19 year old high on meth detained in the unit after he tried killing the family dog and made threats to kill the family. He was trash talking the cops while handcuffed in the car. Typical 19 year old high on meth behavior. Did they just ignore him and bring him to the jail to also get away from the gathering crowd? No. The senior officer opens the door, pulls the kid out, uncuffs him, and challenges him to a fight. Cop doesn't lay a finger on him and the kid doesn't swing either but the verbal challenge got harsher, louder, and more F Bomb loaded as the video continued. My friend's brother noticed someone in the crowd was filming and started dressing them down with vulgar language. I think at some point he was also cursing at the 19 year old kid. They eventually recuffed the kid and put him back in the unit after he didn't back up his trash talk by swinging on the cop. Their video was on FB before the kid was even in booking. Before shift change the biggies had already pulled body cam footage and realized there was no "out of context" excuse for the citizen video, that legit what was being said on facebook was the real story.

Like I get not wanting to be recorded while doing your job regardless of what you do but when the country is consistently moving toward holding a specific line of work accountable (law enforcement) maybe instead of passing laws banning citizens from recording you welcome them to film you. Do your job correctly and the auditors won't have content for youtube. Do your job correctly and people won't die. Do your job correctly and you won't be recorded holding your knee on a man's throat as he struggles to breathe. I once was in a board meeting (when I cared about getting involved) and realized we (the board) were being recorded by a person in the audience during a contentious agenda item. I was already in a state of anxiety because I arrived to a board room full of protestors that were pissed at the 50% of the board voting against their stance. Tack on seeing a camera recording and I shut down. I guess if I would have gone another route in my life and became a po po I wouldn't fare much better being recorded doing that job too.

I am bombarded with pro and anti LEO stuff b/c of family and some friends/older acquaintances on the former and friend circle on the latter and I do see a middle ground. I think the pro-accountability crowd definitely wants Officer Crumbcake taking criminals to jail when they rape, murder, steal, create a driving hazard that could kill someone, or other victim based crimes. I also think that the broad strokes for "all" is too short sighted regardless of topic, including this one. One of my bandmates had to drop out of college in 2001 and the easiest thing for him to get a steady paycheck was applying at my dad's department. Within a year he was delivering bottled water b/c the cop job quite frankly sucks and for the same money he wasn't having to put his life on the line and have his very positive demeanor degraded into cynicism. One thing police drama on TV gets right is there are no happy veteran cops.

I also think guys like my water boy friend went into LEO with a good heart but there are so many interactions that don't make the news it does make the good intent people say "Screw this" and they bail on the line of work and in many places ACAB is a very appropriate stance to take. He's got an office safety job for a billion dollar company and is the most relaxed chill dude as I remember him 20 years ago when we were college students.

Anyway, I disagree with banning the cameras. We should be allowed to record anyone our tax dollars are paying. And in my heart I do have some "yeah buts" but recognize if I point out those then there are just loop holes for negative intentioned people to exploit. An example I mean
the first and second amendment auditors I referenced earlier that go out of their way to get the cops called on them just so they can film the interaction for youtube hits.

Hell even when I took advantage of a "ride along" opportunity with the local fire department and just wore a little orange vest while they did their real work there were people coming out of their houses with their phones in their hands pointed in our direction. Like, your neighbor busted her head on the driveway and they're spine boarding her. Do you really need to film that?

/rant
 
It turns out Nailz may have been the babyface?

(Yeah, I know there's a difference between cops and correction officers but just barely! Everyone assumed The Big Bossman was a cop when I was a kid!)
 

"Florida’s Pasco County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) has been compiling secret lists of middle and high school students that they believe could “fall into a life of crime.” The confidential records, some protected by state and federal law due to the sensitive nature of their contents, have been used to single out children with poor grades, or who have been a victim of or a witness to abuse – all criteria that the Sheriff’s office uses to compile its roster."

Every time I think cops can't stoop lower.
 

"Florida’s Pasco County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) has been compiling secret lists of middle and high school students that they believe could “fall into a life of crime.” The confidential records, some protected by state and federal law due to the sensitive nature of their contents, have been used to single out children with poor grades, or who have been a victim of or a witness to abuse – all criteria that the Sheriff’s office uses to compile its roster."

Every time I think cops can't stoop lower.
Somewhere around 2000-01 I had to observe three different teachers for school. Friend of a friend's sister taught Special Education and it was a fantastic opportunity to observe a class different from generic everything else. One of the teachers was introducing me to the kids, all elementary aged, and then when we got to one little boy she said, "and he's probably going to wind up in J-A-I-L." This was an educator. Of special ed children. To tie it in with LEO, it was in a part of town that "required" an armed officer on campus during school hours. So, to me, it follows a logic pattern that if the teachers are thinking it, so are the people that make the arrests.
 
I hadnt heard the latest on the kid, but I know he was in critical condition over the weekend. That cop is so fucked. Glad the unions down there didn't defend this shit whatsoever.

Apparently the other excuse the cop used was this was a vehicle in a previous chase or something, but man, talking about being reactive. This is the shit that gives cop a VERY bad name when they don't use at least a bit of mindfulness before fucking going off on someone.
 
Bill Goldberg should have been arrested for assault for the way he kicked me in the head at The Starrcade, but naturally the police let him off scot-free. Typical white privilege.
Bret, you and your Hart Foundation were the workhorses of the WWF & WCW. You ARE the greatest of all time.
 
Don't most departments have dental insurance? Every photo I've seen of her in meme world her chompers are just on the wrong side of "doesn't brush enough."

Other than than the fact that they were smashing on the clock, I'm surprised at how hard the internet is going on this. It's pretty much a given that cops, paramedics, and firemen are fucking horny 24/7 and doing it on and off the clock. Paramedic friend said they even have a term "AIDS" for Ambulance Induced Divorce Syndrome. I found out in my adult life that even my dad was up to shit in the early 90s.
 
Don't most departments have dental insurance? Every photo I've seen of her in meme world her chompers are just on the wrong side of "doesn't brush enough."

Other than than the fact that they were smashing on the clock, I'm surprised at how hard the internet is going on this.
1. She's from Tennessee. You'd be surprised at how few teeth there are in the average head around here, even in 2023. Take what you can get.

2. It's the internet. MORAL OUTRAGE~ and such. The same people that goon to cuck hypno videos will be tweeting about how much they hate cheaters. If she wasn't a cop doing it on duty? It wouldn't have been a story at all.
 

feels like this should have been posted already. just brutal awful shit
 
I was going to explain how biased and stupid these videos are and why people in these communities respond to police like they do but I realized there is really no point.

Fuck the police.
It's kind of remarkable that in 20 years and 31,000 topics and we've yet to ever agree on anything.

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Anyway, I do understand what you are saying, but in these 2 videos they isn't much in the way of shades of grey,
The first guy is a repeat offender, who was caught stealing a car, then broke into a house with 2 old people in it to hide. Then somehow wiggled his ass through the bars of the cops car and stole the cops vehicle before hiding in another attic.

The 2nd video the guy did commit a mild assault to a parks employee, then was petulant with the cop and resisted arrest. So I'm fine with him getting the shock treatment.

3 cheers for meth heads?
 
I enjoy the work of the Youtube Channel "Audit the Audit." He generally sides with citizens in the documented encounters, but he is fully capable of identifying when he comes across a citizen that wasn't completely innocent in a bad interaction. I think he's fair enough overall and presents a non-biased appraisal with the resources available, be it citizen cell phone video or publicly available resources like body cam footage. If a citizen submits an interaction that paints themselves in a poor light, he says as much and cites the laws of the state in question to explain why the citizen is in the right or wrong. I don't know the vlogger's legal credentials, but he's pretty well versed on case law, precedents, and I've learned a lot.
 
That's probably the only channel of its kind that actively tries to balance things out logically and legally. Be careful with the algorithm now, SFH, because you'll start getting some real shitty alt reich suggestions if you check more Audit stuff out.
 
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