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Looks interesting. It's from the guys behind "Ready or Not" and the "10/31/98" segment on "V/H/S/" (and to a lesser extent, "Devils Due")
 
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Maybe fifth time is the charm to finally kill one of their three main characters.
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Trailer looks good. Glad they were able to find a new angle to work the franchise without beating a dead horse.
 
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Trailer looks good. Glad they were able to find a new angle to work the franchise without beating a dead horse.
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Arquette looks like he’s doing good work from the trailer. His trailer bits looked better to me than anything else.
 
Doesn't look terrible and I actually didn't hate Scream 4. Probably looking more forward to this then the Hallowwen sequel.
 
I really liked Ready or Not so I'm intrigued. Great trailer, tense, scary, atmospheric. I enjoyed Scream 4 so I'm cautiously intrigued by this one too.
 
This looks really good, in fact way exceeded what I thought was maybe a shaky sequel effort. Lots of stuff in this trailer, and from what it looks like, there will be as per usual with this franchise alot of meta/homage stuff from the other films, etc.

Someone big is certainly being killed, have to think it's Dewey based on the one reaction of Gayle Weathers at some point. Could be a red herring in the trailer though, who knows.
 
I think Gayle will be the one to go. I don't see Courtney coming back ever, but Neve and David aren't doing much nowadays.
 
To point, the Halloween:Resurrection (2002) use of Laurie Strode led me to believe she'd be a bigger part of the film than she was.
 
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This actually might be the best of the sequels. Just really impressed with it. Also probably the most violent-this thing gets straight up vicious at times.
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I wrote about it in the horror thread but I agree.
 
Gary said:

This actually might be the best of the sequels. Just really impressed with it. Also probably the most violent-this thing gets straight up vicious at times.
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This. It really follows the original Scream in multiple ways (with some pretty clever twists on similar scenes) but at its best it's surprisingly gory with some nasty full-on weapon stab shots visually and works much like the 1st Scream: It's a bit of a satire of the original Scream e.g. little things like the opening scene answerer's favorite movie is The Babadook but also stands really well on its own as a straight-up who's the killer? horror movie, which the sequels usually lacked.

8/10 - This is what Scream 2-4 should've been in execution but was far enough removed timewise from the original that it made sense to essentially go back to the source (nearly 30 years later).

Surprisingly strong cast list too: Melissa Barrera, Jack Quaid (The Boys), Mikey Madison (Better Things), Jenna Ortega (Stuck In the Middle), Dylan Mannette (Goosebumps & 13 Reasons Why), and Mason Gooding (Love, Victor)

Also, loved the cameo of James & Rebecca from Dead Meat in this!
 
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I'm still processing everything, but my pros outweigh my cons. Of course I'm always happy to see Marley Shelton in a film. There are a lot of little things that stood out, mostly references to previous movies or Craven properties. I'm just glad we got to visit these characters again. The original Scream hit me at a very momentous age as a horror fan. I was quite dissatisfied with what I was discovering with my newly minted "adult" membership at the video store horror section (I was underage but the local place had a policy that parents could sign a Rated R waiver). When my bud called me and was like, "dude, you have got to come see this shit" and showed me the movie. He had already watched it once that day and was NOT the horror geek I was. He was just on the edge of his seat as I was, and he knew the outcome. It would ultimately be the last movie I remember watching with him before we both added girlfriends to the mix.

Somewhere in watching Scream (2022) tonight, I was 15 again, finding the magic of horror with my best friend. Maybe this installment was imperfect, but it hit some good nostalgia high spots for me. I'll be more coherent tomorrow.
 
Saw this opening night at some extra fan-service event......it had a pretty cool behind the scenes/homage to the franchise and Wes stuff before the movie with the stars reminscing about stories on Wes and the original production, also they did a vignette style look back at the sequels, and then after, there was a Q&A with one of the Radio Silence guys, Kevin Williamson, and a really drunk and/or high Arquette, who made little to no sense. It was a nice touch to opening night though overall.

Why I hadnt posted yet is two-fold....been sick as fuck since just a few days after and also I wanted to go see it one more time to see how this held up a second time around (which is always fun to do specifically with Scream films since you can meticulously see how they paid or not paid attention to the details of the killer(s) in each scene they were in.

Anyway, I'm with yall....this was the best Scream sequel of them all. Easily. Particularly, there was so much connection to the original film, way WAY more than any of the other sequels. Easter eggs and subtle referencing like a mofo. Probably alot of stuff you didn't catch the first time around, a second viewing made it that much more fun. And much like the original Scream had a boatload of self referencing to other Wes Craven films, there was a lot of nods to other things related to Wes and all of his work in this one too. In the credits, birds were chirping in the "For Wes" spot, apparently Craven was an avid bird watcher. Particularly, there was a shitload of cool stuff within the Stab mentions....
The guy who played Stu in the original (who I thought the entire film that it was being set up for his return as the new killer) actually was the actor under the mask in the Stab trailer with the chromeface/flame thrower scene. Another example of how much attention was given to the small details....there was one scene where a character gets killed during the Red Right Hand song playing, and as fell after getting stabbed......his right hand was red.....little nuances like this made this film very memorable. I missed it even the second time around, but apparently the Kirby character from part 4 was shown to be alive via some YouTube thumbnail shot in the film? And did you catch they revealed Mark from part 3 ended up getting married to Sidney? I'm shocked they couldn't get Patrick Dempsey for a cameo. These little details are reasons why this franchise is so great overall.

As far as the major surprise of the film,
I guess I called it with Dewey being killed off, but this was one of the only qualms I had. Was it his time? His story didn't seem properly arced, all things considered. Would have preferred another close call with him, similar to the other films, including the original (where he was origjnally supposed to die, but they filmed extra scenes just in case they changed their mind). I thought Gail would have been more ideal to be killed off, she is starting to indeed look "weathered" and I just don't know where else they can go with her. My prediction is when they do Scream 6 (which seems like a certified lock at this point) she will be the opening kill. I also think its inevitable, esp with Skeet Ulrich back in projected ghost form, in some way, shape or form, Stu needs to return for part 6. I loved the oh shit moment where you realize they are in his place from the original film. Just too much Stu referencing for him not to be a part of the next one,

The meta factor and how they really pushed hard on fandom and "elevated horror" was a cool touch also. And I dont know if this was planned this way, but it almost had to be. This film was released 25 years and 25 days since the original....awesome!
 
I liked it, but I would slightly disagree on it being the best of the sequels. I would put 2 over it.

I would probably go 1,2,5,4 .............3.

One little thing that I don't think gets mentioned a ton. I loved how in the original the final scene was so bright. Virtually every horror movie has a dark final setting. Scream broke so many barriers at the time, and I think the way the final scene was lit was one of them. Seeing Billy in his white shirt covered in bright red blood, and Stu in his white sweater wearing the crimson mask in such a bright setting was unique and really added something.

I wish they would've went back to that at some point. Because even as violent as this version was I don't think anything has ever quite captured that final scene in any of the sequels.

Also, too much gun play in 5 I thought. I did find the reveal at the end fairly anti-climatic too. I would've rated it higher if it had a banger of an ending.
 
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I agree with everything GM posted, down to the rankings. I'm surprised at the amount of love this is getting and I figure its due to the nostalgia.

It was fun coming back to the universe and I really thought Dewey stole the movie as one of the originals. I think I said it earlier, but I really would have had Gale bite the bullet in this one as she has been boring since Scream 3. It was good to see Sydney back and a lot of faces from Scream 3 (Deputy Judy and Randy's sister).

I wasn't a huge fan of the reveal at the end. I just thought the motives were so boring, especially after it was all being linked back to people who were related to former killers/victims. I also had a major issue with
Amber being a killer, from a logical standpoint. She had to be the one in Ghostface doing most of the kills since Richie spent most of the time with Sam, right? But I noticed a lot in this one the victims fighting back - am I really suppose to believe that this 100-pound girl is getting beaten up while killing people and has no bruises on her face? I know its a movie, but come on.
. I also didn't really understand the point of
letting Tara live through the opening scene. I know the franchise usually has a major actress eat it in the opening scene and figured that was happening here, but I didn't think their plan really *needed* Tara to be alive to get Sam to come back. It felt like having a loose end in the story for the sake of having it.
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I did enjoy ramping up the brutality of the killings though, felt like a good way to bring the series into the 2020's. I would still rank Scream 1 and 2 at the top, with this one feeling like a better version of Scream 4 (I enjoyed the twist in Scream 4 much more , but I enjoyed the side characters like the girl who will be the new Randy more than anyone else from S4). Scream 3 was awful except for Parker Posey.
 
The only thing I liked about Scream 3 were the constant digs at what a horrible person Jennifer Aniston was. I will admit it did make me chuckle. In some ways it felt like the entire movie was a joke between Courtney and Jennifer.

As bad as 3 was I do also understand they had to totally re-write it due to Columbine. As the original plan had them returning to Woodsboro with Stu returning as the leader of a group of killers terrorizing Woodsboro High. Matthew Lillard had confirmed this, but they didn't want to do anything resembling a high school massacre.

I can see not wanting to revist Stu and Billy at all in 2000 considering how fresh Eric and Dylan were at the time.
 
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This is the worst entry in the entire fucking series by a goddamn country mile. It may as well be titled Scream: Because Gen Z Doesn't Deserve Effort.

Fuck this awful piece of fanfic. TCM22 was better.
 
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I don't agree that it's the worst in the franchise, but I can see why some people would feel that way.
 
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I liked it, but I still think Scream 4 is the best of the sequels. I liked Kirby from Scream 4 more than any of the new characters and I thought the villains in 4 were much more interesting than 5. The Sam character was really bland and it would've been better if her sister was the final girl since her scenes had the most tension.

It's a fun time, but it's really a movie that gets weaker the more I think about it.
 
I could do without (this goes for all movies) the killer during the movie is just a regular ass person. Then revealed as the killer, and it’s all crazy voice, and wild expressions. Like they couldn’t contain themselves until now.
 
Very amused that they

ripped off the OUATIH ending with the same actress (who I like on Better Things but isn't even that good in the psycho role.) Looks like the real freaky Tarantino film students were this film's directors!
 
Youth N Asia said:
I could do without (this goes for all movies) the killer during the movie is just a regular ass person. Then revealed as the killer, and it’s all crazy voice, and wild expressions. Like they couldn’t contain themselves until now.
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At least it was hinted at with the "crazy" ones of the first two, mostly because Lillard and Olyphant always give performances like they're struggling to maintain whatever sense of sanity they may have. Fuck, even 3 might get a pass because, in that situation, I could see losing whatever grip you have.

But 4 and 5? Yeah. Just doing it for the sake of continuing the trend.
 
At this point it's just people trying to kill a middle aged woman based on something that happened to her in high school nearly 30 years ago. In part 5's case, before they were born. Are serial killers really that dedicated? Just go kill a bunch of people because you love stab, find someone else named Sidney in the phone book, and Sarah Connor her. Shit.
 
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At this point it's just people trying to kill a middle aged woman based on something that happened to her in high school nearly 30 years ago. In part 5's case, before they were born. Are serial killers really that dedicated? Just go kill a bunch of people because you love stab, find someone else named Sidney in the phone book, and Sarah Connor her. Shit.
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I read somewhere online that one of the original script ideas for Scream 5 was Stu would return with a cult like following of ghostfaces. That would make sense to go after Sydney.
 
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