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Lane is so underrated. Maybe my favorite tag worker. Did he have any notable singles matches?
 
They definitely went with quantity over quality with that Premium Live but there's a few not-terrible things. Flair and Reed had good chemistry going back to the Kansas City territory. It was good/necessary for Z Man to get a win. And making Luger's match a glorified squash was the right call since Motor City Madman sucked.

One thing that would've helped is doing a Steiners-Nastys blowoff with a clean job to send Knobbs and Sags north.
 
Somebody clearly tipped JR off that the Nasties were leaving because he fucking buried them on commentary
 
Valeyard said:
Lane is so underrated. Maybe my favorite tag worker. Did he have any notable singles matches?
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I was digging in old wrestling mags a few months ago and saw a 1980 Florida listing for Bryan St John and Stanley Lane as a team. My brain melted as I could not come up who the hell "Stanley Lane" was at 1st.
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Apparently Bret Hart and Honky both sought WCW employment in late 89. Bret was offered 200K a year from Flair, who then reneged and made Hart talk to Jim Barnett about a contract. Barnett offered him 150k, which was speculated as a way to show off for Jim Herd that he talked a deal down by 50K. At that point Bret said F this.

I don't know what you do with Honky in 1990 WCW. I don't see Ole pushing him. Even as a comedy heel there's not much to do in the more serious WCW.

Prior to Arn showing up back in the fold, Sting and Flair were hanging with Pillman on TV, so there's another case of Pillman getting derailed push wise.
 
Kamala and I were talking about the Australian tour from 93 with Dean and Joe Malenko, Liger, Muraco, Jake the Snake and others on tour.

It made me realize Muraco, a former GCW star for Ole was surprisingly not brought in during the 1990 Ole reign of bringing back older talent he knew.
If any talk happened, WCW likely low balled him.
 
You could do worse for a Black Scorpion than Muraco. I don't know if it makes any sense but he could carry the promo end.

Muraco's ECW run is pretty interesting just because he looks like the old roid monster he was but was still working pretty hard.
 
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Honky hangs with the Freebirds, maybe more as a manager. Freebirds/Honky vs RNRs/Rich is a pretty solid program for a while.
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That would be solid/perfectly acceptable and that's important because "for a while" would be about 30 months.
 
Hold the phone.... Moondog Rex is in 1990 WCW. Honky's Memphis partner was Larry Latham aka Moondog Spot

We could get some silly Moondog vs Freebird matches
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Honky was a semi regular partner with Lou Thesz for Gulas. If they can drum up that footage you can get some goofiness of Honky using it to prove he's the greatest wrestler of all time, even carrying Thesz.
 
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1 - Goofy booking for Sting/Luger vs DOOM. They have Spivey run in and attack Luger. Instead they did the run in and had DOOM DQ'd a minute later for dumping Sting over the top rope.
2 - Heel Bobby Eaton has music that is the crowd chanting his name.
3- Ranger Ross wrestles, 2 years since his push went away, thanks to the Desert Storm.
4 - Jabronis are all over the card. Youngbloods, Buddy Lee Parker, Joey Mags, El Cubano all get matches.
5- I popped for a vignette of the Horsemen hanging with LT at his bar. Also at the table? Kevin Sullivan and MICHAEL WALLSTREET!
 

Dusty booked Morton and Taylor to beat up his kid. I wonder if that was his way of trying to build their confidence that Big Dust wasn't going to bury them for their past issues?

- Even though I have seen this (and reviewed it before) I was surprised by the end of Sting/Koloff
- Vince ripped off Flash Funk from this segment with PN Newz and Salt and Peppa
- Two New Japan legends lose clean after a hard hitting match.... and then get beat up by 2 old guys for good measure
- WTF I had zero memory of Luger working Muta and after the match played out I see why....
- I think Morton's turn could have been executed better had they had him turn on Gibson in a match. I didn't look up results but Gibson says on here he's ready to work.
- Dusty overbooked this thing so the planned long Eaton/Flair main event was cut way down. Eaton was pissed according to Corny,
 
New Center Stage Chronicles dropped from Nov 90 over the weekend.

- New Japan and WCW were working on a joint super show NJPW proposed:

Sting vs Muta
Flair vs Choshu
Liger vs Pillman'
Eaton vs Benoit (Pegasus)
Sid vs Big Van Vader
Luger vs Saito
Dr Death vs Bigelow
Plus the Steiners and Southern Boys in tag matches with other NJPW guys
 
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this starts hilarious as Tim Horner is the 1st WCW talent to get a promo. He is flanked by pillman and zenk. His promo stinks, earning him a side eye from zenk. Then Horner doesnt know their opponent's name and Zenk and pillman mercifully take over.

- the Steiners compete for worst promo

- Even El Gigante is better
 
BruiserBrody said:
New Center Stage Chronicles dropped from Nov 90 over the weekend.
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Rotondo was told he was on the chopping block if his Michael Wallstreet gimmick didn't get over. The guys speculate why you'd put a new gimmick on a guy you didn't want anyway. Makes Mike jumping to the WWF in the middle of a push to be far less surprising.

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Flair vs Nightstalker (Adam Bomb) was teased on TV as part of the gauntlet challenge series, but the match did not happen.
I wonder if that could have broken the Gigante scale.
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They ran a TV taping without Flair, Luger, Sting or the Steiners. Why can't we draw fans???
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Sting vs Sid headlined a series of major market shows that drew 1000 or way less.
 
BruiserBrody said:

Dusty booked Morton and Taylor to beat up his kid. I wonder if that was his way of trying to build their confidence that Big Dust wasn't going to bury them for their past issues?

- Even though I have seen this (and reviewed it before) I was surprised by the end of Sting/Koloff
- Vince ripped off Flash Funk from this segment with PN Newz and Salt and Peppa
- Two New Japan legends lose clean after a hard hitting match.... and then get beat up by 2 old guys for good measure
- WTF I had zero memory of Luger working Muta and after the match played out I see why....
- I think Morton's turn could have been executed better had they had him turn on Gibson in a match. I didn't look up results but Gibson says on here he's ready to work.
- Dusty overbooked this thing so the planned long Eaton/Flair main event was cut way down. Eaton was pissed according to Corny,
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Kazmaier is here already. Huh? I assumed he was brought in as Scott Steiner's replacement after his injury on this show.
 
I'm not sure that's, to quote Independence Day, "entirely accurate."
 
snuffbox said:
I'm not sure that's, to quote Independence Day, "entirely accurate."
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Best part of that shoot (IIRC) is it's 2000 and Ole is still arguing Hogan and Flair can't work and wouldn't have lasted in Georgia. "Same damn match every night!"

Ole, Hulk made 25 million dollars since GCW went under. Perhaps you are wrong.
 
Dusty Rhodes had a 3 year booking contract when he came back in 1991. At the end of the run (Slamboree 93 era) WCW was looking to Terry Funk and Eddie Gilbert as possible replacements. That messes with the ECW timeline of course, but could alter the Orange Goblin timeline as well.

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WCW Sat Night: (Arn got stabbed by Sid so Roma needed a replacement partner) Roma: "I found somebody who can live up to the Horsemen standard!" Mean Gene: "Who is this man?" Roma: "ERIK WATTS!"
 
Tully Blanchard, also a booker's son, would've been a thousand times better even if it was only short term. Roma needed all the help he could get. If Tully gets along, you've got a good series of Brain Busters vs Pretty Wonderful matches to fill a few months (or years if it's booked like Nasty Boys-Harlem Heat).
 
snuffbox said:
Tully Blanchard, also a booker's son, would've been a thousand times better even if it was only short term. Roma needed all the help he could get. If Tully gets along, you've got a good series of Brain Busters vs Pretty Wonderful matches to fill a few months (or years if it's booked like Nasty Boys-Harlem Heat).
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Suit and tie Tully trying to be the square peg in the Studd Stable could be fun.
 
New Center Stage Chronicles dropped! Dec 1990:

- Ole was fired. Suddenly Tom Zenk went from jabroni to a "50 match win streak" and winning the TV belt.
- Brad Armstrong was quitting after he and Ole blew up. He will now stay.
- They announced the Steiners had chased the Nasty Boys out of WCW.... then aired a Nasty Boys squash.
- WCW pulled themselves from Joe Pedicino's Sat Atlanta syndicated wrestling block. WCW has no Atlanta syndication, only Macon.
- JYD landed on Harley Race awkwardly and broke his collarbone. This is basically it for Race.
- Sam Houston got a gig late in Ole's run. He was booked to lose to Terry Taylor in a face vs face TV match and balked.
- Pat O Conner's widow was mad that Sam Muschnick was going to be involved in the PPV because Sam backed Larry Matysik's start up in 1983 over the St Louis/Central States booking office O'Conner co owned with Geigel and Verne
 
I remember when the Z Man beat Arn for the TV belt. For at least one 7 year old in front of a flickering screen in rural Wisconsin it was awesome
 
I don't recall the match off hand, but I was definitely watching either Pro or Worldwide in syndication on Sun mornings during this period as the CCC pod mentioned Dec had the angle where the Freebirds beat Rick Steiner in a 1 vs 1 match by DQ when Hayes threw a board at Rick, who caught. Garvin then acted as if Rick had smacked him and the ref called for the DQ.

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I was a Zenk fan from his AWA appearances in Feb 89. I watched the Can Am era but I don't recall anything off hand as a childhood memory
 
CCC update:
- Starrcade 90 review-
- They discuss the Canadian team and who could have been there instead.... The Rougeaus, The Kiniski Sons or w/ Daddy Gene, or plan ahead better and land Owen Hart now instead of a month from now when his European tour ends.
My favorite answer was Joe LeDuc and Ronnie Garvin though!! Put them in with the Steiners and stiff the shit out of each other.
- The Russian Brute and Porkchop Cash played cornermen.
- TheSmartMarls alum Loss4Words points out Dusty sort of picks things up where he left off in Dec 88 as the Horsemen are being pushed again as top heels and Luger is becoming the top face over Sting.
- Meltz says 2 weeks before the PPV Flair was put back into the Doom match and Windham was going to be the Scorpion - then Teddy Long pulled a power play and refused to have Doom lose to Flair/Arn so the plan changed back and the tag title match was a schmozz.
- If WWF didn't want him, Rotunda had an offer from NJPW to team with Brad Rheingans to face the Russians
- AWA, which hasn't taped TV since June, taped an angle stripping Larry Z of the belt for refusing to work a Japan tour. In reality he signed with WCW
 
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